Vacation Home Rental

In the last few weeks MSRPO has gotten a flood of calls from people who received letters from the Deparment of Health. If you received a letter from the Minnesota Department of Health that states, in part,

"MN Law (MN Statutes 157) requires that rental properties providing sleeping accommodations

to the public for periods of less than one week be licensed and inspected to ensure the safety and health of renters.

This state license is required regardless of any license or approval received frorn the local city ortownship," or if you have ever rented, or thought of renting your cabin to help make ends meet, then read on.

MN Statutes 157 is actually the definition of a hotel or motel under current law. The Department of Health brought forward legislation last session that contained sweeping definition changes, and attempted to put any cabin rented for even one night, under the same regulations and licensing requirements as a hotel. It was tabled in committee and never received a vote. This is the second year such draconian legislation has been put forward.

Treating and regulating a single family dwelling or cabin as a Hilton hotel defies logic and reasonableness.

In response to Health and Safety claims, we must ask, if our cabins our safe for our families, why would they not be safe for someone else's family. Cabins are vastly different than hotels in use - it is not like a car pulls up to a cabin and asks to rent a room for the night. And cabins and hotels do occupy the same market; some people prefer the experience a private residence or rustic remote cabin offers them.

Where was the Department of Health when people were renting out their homes for the political party convention in St. Paul 2 years ago. There was mention of health and safety then. People were just genuinely happy with the influx of tourists spending money in Minnesota.

Will the health department be hiring "cabin cops" to go after people who rent out their cabins, and will the counties and local governments be on the hook to pay for this added layer of bureaucracy ? People have been renting out their cabins and hunting shacks in Minnesota for 200 years without incident - why is it an issue now?

Why Is It an Issue Now?

A lot of people are frustrated with this economy. Cabin owners are certainly frustrated with escalating property taxes. And some people are renting out their cabins now because of those bills.

Resorts are struggling as well and we sympathize with them. But regulating something out of existence isn't going to solve the wider problems of a poor economy.

The state is also short on money and we just hope that the state isn't trying to balance its budget through fees and regulations. All income, property and sales taxes apply to occasional rentals - the definition does nothing to change that. and sales taxes are still due

What About My Neighbor Renting to Rowdies?

The Department of Health definition would in no way impact who an owner could rent to. In fact, in order to pay all of the fees, owners may be more liberal in who the choose to let rent their properties. Noise complaints should be taken to the local police - people are paying for this with property taxes. And owners who are repeat offenders can be taken to court and forced to be more responsible - the Department of Health legislation would have no impact on bad neighbors.

Unfortunately we can't legislate civility or decency.

What has driven this Issue?

The economy and the internet mostly. Craigslist, VRBO.com and others. This has really be happening since people started putting cabins on lakes. To classify it as a new phenomenon isnt really accurate.

What is the solution?

MSRPO is working with the Minnesota Vacation Rental Association (MNVRA). Early investigation indicates that the Department of Health is over-reaching. We can see the need for some definition that accurately reflects the cabin or hunting shack rental in Minnesota, and differentiates it from a hotel or motel, and stand willing to work towards creating such a definition. The regulations and fees should be reasonable and appropriate for the diverse and often rustic and charming nature of the many cabins or recreational properties in Minnesota.

If you are not an MSRPO member, but have ever rented, or considered renting your cabin for even one night, join us. This issue will be front and center next session, and the monied interests who would like to shut all cabin rentals out of the market are working overtime to accomplish their goals. We need money for legal counsel, for lobbying representation, for communication. But mostly we need your voice, and your energy in writing letters or emails regarding this important issue.

11 comments for “Vacation Home Rental”

  1. Gravatar of A. JordanA. Jordan
    Posted Thursday, September 16, 2010 at 9:38:39 PM

    Even if they regulate cabin rentals to the max, people will still rent out their cabins privately and nobody will ever know. It is a hopeless and ridiculous exercise and just another example of governmental stupidity and overreaction to a non-problem. If resort owners want to protect their clients from "dangerous rental of private cabin syndrome" they could try lowering their rents and presenting favorable packages during times like this, beefing up their activities, and cleaning up their own accommodations instead.

  2. Gravatar of Jeff ForesterJeff Forester
    Posted Friday, September 24, 2010 at 8:32:21 AM

    Jordan - agreed. This discussion began three years ago with a question, "How big a problem is this." So far they have been able to identify less than 800 cabins for rent in Minnesota, 800 out of 122,000. As Shakespear said, it is,
    "... a tale told by an idiot, full of sund and fury, and signifying nothing."

  3. Gravatar of Bob TaylorBob Taylor
    Posted Tuesday, October 12, 2010 at 2:27:29 PM

    Jeff & Directors

    Cannot attend the annual meeting, but anxious to get a report on reaction on percolating Vacation Home Rental issue and legislative inerta in dealing with the issue. This is yet another illegal invasion of individual property rights.

    Bob Taylor

  4. Posted Thursday, October 14, 2010 at 12:56:39 PM

    Bob, MSRPO has teamed with Minnesota Vacation Home Rental Association and are meeting with all the various folks in this issue to craft a definition of Vacation Home Rental that makes sense. How would you define a VHR - what differentiates it from a resort or hotel in your mind?

  5. Gravatar of Will HilpertWill Hilpert
    Posted Thursday, October 14, 2010 at 1:53:51 PM

    Re: Cabin Rental's
    Jeff

    Is there a way to "tap" the Mn listings on vrbo for support? There are literaly hundreds if not thousands of listings. Also a good source for membership in MSRPOA.

    Will Hilpert

  6. Posted Thursday, October 14, 2010 at 2:19:32 PM

    Done Will - there are less than 1,000 listings on the various sites - we emailed them.

  7. Gravatar of Chris HeschChris Hesch
    Posted Saturday, October 16, 2010 at 5:24:30 PM

    The Minnesota Dept. of Health does not have the resources to take care of what it is responsable for now. It has to wait until a child gets killed in a country club hot tub before it reacts. They have no business policing private property. On the same note though private rental owners need to be very diligent on how and to whom they rent to. A few high profile incidents will bring the state down on everyone. I have used private rentals in the past and found the owners very gracious and accomodating. I have never run into a rental that was anything less than advertised.

  8. Gravatar of Dawn WylieDawn Wylie
    Posted Friday, February 18, 2011 at 6:22:41 PM

    The MN Dept of Health has now labeled my home as an "other PUBLIC accommodation facility. Has anyone heard of this.

  9. Gravatar of Sue AndersonSue Anderson
    Posted Wednesday, March 16, 2011 at 9:46:34 AM

    Can I recover my lost rentals on my taxes due to the MN Dept of Health letter I recd last year. I was unable to rent my property for 20 days last year because renters would not agree to weekly rental. I since found out there was no basis for declaring my "less than a week" rental illegal from a Dept of Health point of view. They overreached in sending me the letter and threatening me. I think I should be able to claim the loss in rental on my 2010 taxes. Does anyone have thoughts on this?

  10. Posted Thursday, March 17, 2011 at 9:39:29 PM

    I discovered your website tonight and I'm glad to see you're out there. I too, have a northern Minnesota Lake property. Good to see there's and advocate group, and I'll start paying more attention.

    I have a horse in the race on another matter. The rental of private, family cabins poses a risk that a lot of owners don't consider. You see, I'm a well drilling contractor. I witness absolutely sickening conditions on properties all the time. There are nimrods pounding shallow sandpoint wells all over the place. They'll punch 'em right next to the septic system.

    There's a degree of ignorance that must be dealt with. Sooner or later someone is going to get sick, or worse. I'm not blowing smoke. I have been in the well industry for 35 years. I've seen it all, and there are days when I can only shake my head. I come across customers that choose to listen to the crusty old know-it-all next door. Others will seek advice on the internet. Bad. Bad. Bad. Please, in this case, listen and seek the services of the professionals.

    Should your organization be interested in my further assistance, please don't hesitate to contact me. I'm kind of a blogger, public speaker and columnist on water-related issues. I would love any chance I can get to educate homeowners.

    Steve Alberg- Alberg Water Services- Annandale 612-961-1821.

  11. Gravatar of Sue BicanSue Bican
    Posted Friday, May 20, 2011 at 10:16:15 AM

    The issue of renting out your cabin or hunting shack, and have it regulated by government is just more of the same over-reach of government when it comes to property rights. It is not their pervue to regulate how many times, for how long to whom.
    The first tenent of the Communist Manifesto is to abolish property rights. Google it for yourself. Don't take my word for it. Our country must be reclaimed by you, the American citizen- and tell the Government- "over my dead body will you tell me what I can and can't do on my property." We must stand together on our God given freedoms.

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